Dereck Liverly II

Height: 7'1"

Weight: 230

Wingspan: 7'7"

Position: C

Draft Age: 19.4

Class: Freshman

League: NCAA

Team: Duke

Advanced

OBPM: 2.5

DBPM: 6.8

BPM: 9.3

WS/40: .201

Efficiency

TS%: .662

2P%: .721

3P%: .154

FT%: .600

FG%: .658

Strengths & Development Areas:

Change Of Direction
Multi-Position Defender
Rim Protection
Catch & Shoot
Impact Screens
Inside Touch

Model Output:

Original
10.07
No Impact
5.07
Positional
6.35
Humble
8.78
Pos Humble
7.97
Average
7.65

Film View:

Lively is a bit of a frustrating player, as his defense was so much fun to watch.  He seemed comfortable, purposeful, and has great awareness on defense.  However, Lively’s offense was difficult to watch and it’s hard to see much of a role for him offensively early in his career.

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Physically Similar NCAA Prospects:

(Based on Height / Wingspan / Weight, not on Playing Style / Skill / Ceiling)

James WisemanJaVale McGeeMark Williams

Best Stats:

6.8 DBPM, 12.7% block rate, 1.5% steal rate as a center, 97th percentile as a P&R man (screener), 93rd percentile in transition

Lively has a clear role – dunk and play defense, and he did at least one of those very well.  He has some pretty elite defensive metrics.

Worst Stats:

13 jumpers all season and he shot 15%; 3rd percentile in catch and shoot; 3.44 FGA per game; 7 post ups where he shot 25%; 17.8 defensive rebound rate

So outside of dunking, there just isn’t much there even in terms of nascent scoring skills; Lively cannot shoot and his 3.44 FGA per game is the 7th lowest of prospects in my database since 2005.  He’s also one of 33 prospects with 5 FGA per game or fewer and it’s a pretty bad list outside of Jarred Vanderbilt and Miles Plumlee.  Finally, the 17.8% defensive rebound rate isn’t bad, especially with Lively’s penchant to box out.  However, given his offensive rebound rate is inflated a bit by his proximity to the hoop, this is an indicator that he isn’t an elite rebounder, but generally rebounds like a traditional big man based on where he is positioned on the court.

To be a star or to hit their ceiling:

To be a star, he will need his defense to translate and to be able to add muscle to his frame in a way that allows him to be a DPOY contender.  To simply reach his ceiling, he will still need his defense to translate and to add strength.  But he’ll also need to further develop his offensive awareness, hands, and screening; so that he can become a credible offensive threat and take advantage of his passing ability without leaving his team playing 4 on 5 offensively.

Verdict:

I think there is some very real risk here.  Every couple of years we get a big man who is a potential DPOY candidate, but whose offense is a major work in progress to the point a number of fans might not even appreciate how raw they are. NBA teams generally do need someone to be a bit more of a threat than running between dunker spots and giving them 3-4 FGAs while their defender plays a quasi-zone defense.  Lively fits here and the team that drafts him might end up playing 4 on 5 offensively for his first couple of seasons.

With that said, he is a player who at least has the potential to be a DPOY candidate and he is the kind of multi-level defender that teams love in a center.  I think that Lively eventually puts it together and is at least a credible NBA role player.  The real question is how long will it take and how good of a role player will he be?  If a team is going to invest a lottery pick, they don’t necessarily want to wait 2-3 years for a solid rotation big.  And if Lively’s defense is simply good and not great, it’s going to be hard for him to mitigate his lack of offensive contributions.

Additionally, there’s a principle I have written about before.  As an armchair GM, it’s easy to identify a player you think is promising and if they become a good player in a few years, be happy about your eye for talent.  Frankly, we don’t have to worry about the timeline or what team they eventually produce for.  However, if you are a GM, not only might you face more pressure to win now, but if a player ends up taking 4-5 years and bouncing around 2-3 teams before he settles in, it does nothing for you to watch a player finally develop the way you thought he would on a different franchise.  I sort of refer to this as the Trevor Ariza principle.  He started to emerge on Orlando and was a genuinely great starter for the Lakers and Rockets.  But that was little consolation for Isiah Thomas, who was fired fired by the Knicks around the time that Ariza started to play a vital role with Kobe and the Lakers.

I think Lively has that risk.  I think certain GMs won’t care.  Guys like Sam Presti in OKC and John Hammond in Orlando love these players with length, athleticism, and nascent skills.  I wouldn’t be surprised to see a GM like them take him earlier.  I personally would be nervous to select him before the late lottery.  Something in 14-20 feels like the right range where the risk starts to justify the reward.

NBA Comp High:

Tyson Chandler
Tyson Chandler
Chandler never reached 12 points per game and shot 75% of his career field goals inside of 3 feet, but he was a strong rebounder and very impactful defender who won a championship with the Mavericks, made an All Star game with the Knicks, won DPOY in 2012, and made 3 All Defensive and 1 All NBA (3rd) team. I think Lively is a bit more of a modern version of Chandler. He is can be more mobile on the perimeter, a better passer, and almost would have to shoot more shots outside of three feet. But if he can put on some muscle and find a way to be active and get some buckets offensively, while rebounding, and really reaches his defensive potential, he could have Chandler as his realistic ceiling.

NBA Comp Medium:

More Self-Aware Willie Cauley-Stein
More Self-Aware Willie Cauley-Stein
I realize some NBA fans who didn't get to follow the nuances of WCS's career may think this is underselling Lively (especially if they are reading this after their team invests a lottery pick in him). However, Willie was actually quite good at what he did well. WCS a pretty strong defensive player who had the footspeed to guard the perimeter and slowly gained the bulk to guard the post. He had a DBPM over 1.0 three times and peaked around 1.7 before injuries and other issues derailed his career a bit. He was also pretty talented finishing inside and was a much better passer than people realize. WCS' issue was that he wanted to be a star offensive player and never really embraced the idea of playing a role offensively and expending his energy defensively. However, if Lively can embrace the role that WCS never did, their tape looks pretty similar. And I could see Lively following the good side of Cauley-Stein's trajectory, but not the poor crescendo that followed.

NBA Comp Low:

Jaxon Hayes
Jaxon Hayes
There is probably a better chance of Lively ending up here as well than most fans will want to admit if their team does use a lottery pick on him. Now, Hayes isn't bad and is likely going to be in the league for awhile. But he's also a top 10 pick, who at least so far (he is only 22 and heading into his 5th season) has simply been a good defender (his 5.5 DBPM from college has not fully translated so far) and hasn't made up for his offensive deficiencies so far. And even if he does develop, at this point, there is a good chance it's with another franchise (which again does nothing for the team that drafted him). This is a pretty realistic outcome for Lively and one that isn't bad if he's taken in the late teens or 20s, but will be disappointing if he is taken much earlier.

Dereck Lively II Player Statistics

Per Game

Season GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2021-22 27 20.6 2.3 3.4 .658 0.1 0.4 .154 2.2 3.1 .721 0.6 1.0 .600 2.1 3.3 5.4 1.1 0.5 2.4 0.7 2.7 5.2

Totals

Season GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2021-22 27 700 77 117 .658 2 13 .154 75 104 .721 21 35 .600 72 112 184 37 17 82 23 92 177

Per 40 Minutes

Season GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2021-22 27 700 4.4 6.7 .658 0.1 0.7 .154 4.3 5.9 .721 1.2 2.0 .600 10.5 2.1 1.0 4.7 1.3 5.3 10.1

Advanced Stats

Season G MP PER TS% eFG% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/40 OBPM DBPM BPM
2021-22 34 700 22.6 .662 .667 .111 .299 12.4 17.8 15.2 9.8 1.5 12.7 14.7 11.6 1.8 1.7 3.5 .201 2.5 6.8 9.3
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